Over The Garden Wall Encore Talkback
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In case you've been living under a rock and haven't already seen/downloaded Over The Garden Wall, CN is airing the series for a second time in it's entirety today at 5:30.
It's a fun and spooky ride, so hold on to your butts. Spoiler tag at your own discretion.
Gonna be watching with my sister, maybe more of the family if they stick around. Love the show.
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I intended to make this very thread- thank you for saving me the trouble.
I'm going to record it on my DVR and keep it until there's a DVD release
if that ever happens
gotta love this intro song
so how DO you get to the wood?
any cannon explanation ever been said?
What's the special presentation?
It just means they're showing all the episodes
The Beast is bad
They're replaying the entire thing right this second.
where is all the fanfiction for this show?
>I feel like a boat upon a winding river
>the entirety of
Huh, never noticed that. das cute
You really notice the train whistle the second time around.
>stepping on pumpkins
They're gonna get pumpkinitis doing that.
Seems to be a real problem around these parts.
>>68442630>mfw I learned the Beast is voiced by a 72-year-old opera singer
>You have a spooky skeleton inside you right now
With the big role the lantern plays in this show, which corps would the characters belong to?
Beast = Sinestro Corps
Greg = Blue
Quincy = Orange
Beatrice says Wirt has no willpower, but he does overcome great fear, so I feel like that's a toss up for green.
Wonder if they'll ever do a follow up, not necessarily on greg and wirt, but the unknown as a whole.
I'd really like to see this team tackle a series based around the mythology of the wild west
American tall tales peppered with Mexican and native mythology, set against a backdrop of grand canyons, purple mountains, and raging rivers under the endless night sky
I like it. I was thinking something themed around the industrial era.
TIME FOR THE HIGHWAYMAN
5:30 which timezone though?
Buttery smooth animation incoming
It's on right now, episode 4.
tfw no spoiler
All of this happened because the Beast was too lazy to make oil his damn self
How many episodes are there? Seems like I'll have to check it out sometime down the line
10 total, each 11 minutes long. It's basically a movie.
Since all the people they meet were alive once but aren't really anymore, is there a version of the beast in the real world?
Hope this isn't true, muh spoilers ;_;
The Woodsman fought him for the lantern and won. The Beast just offered to take the lantern back in episode 4>>68443885
10 episodes, 11 mins each. It'll take less than two hours.
The Beast's work would then be doubled because, you know,
he has to grow the trees.
That all? Think I'll just do that now then. Anywhere to stream it? I doubt it's on UK's Cartoon Network
It's not true buddy.
It's not a dream
Thank you anon, time for a ride >>68444044
Dammit, I've read too much
>you will never have a wealthy unkie
Real spoilers ahead, proceed at your own risk. Something I noticed on my second watch through with a friend who hasn't seen it. When they're in the graveyard in episode 9, the only gravestone that actually has a legible name on it is Quincy Endicott, it's the one Greg was hiding behind. And then at the end of the series when they're going back over everyone's lives in the Unknown, you don't see Quincy, you only see the Lady looking at a portrait of him. This led us to believe that Quincy died shortly after the events.
Is facing your fears a theme here? Seems to be.
no it's because they're in purgatory. Unkie Endicott's been dead and buried for a while.
Well, that meshes pretty well with the idea that
the Unknown is a kind of spirit world/limbo, meaning both Quincy Endicott and Maguerite Grey really are ghosts after all.>>68444208 __ Yes. ___
Time for frogs that feel good.
Actually it means that everyone in The Unknown is dead. It's kind of the after-life. Or purgatory/limbo.
>The Woodsman fought him for the lantern and won. My guess is that the beast let him think that. If you tell a man his daughter's soul is "trapped" in the lantern, and then make him fight you for it, he'll spend the rest of his life working to keep it lit.
i thought the beast was voiced by michael dorn for the longest time
It is. Basically every episode has a lesson about maning up and facing your fears, which are often times far less frightening than you led yourself to believe.
I think it's more of an in-between, everyone there is there when they were alive, time isn't linear there.
Why only Quincy thought? There's plenty of gravestones they could have names on but all of them are just scribbles except his. Admittedly, I didn't pore over every frame but I paused a considerable amount and didn't find anyone's name but his.
didn't noticed the grave but I did notice they only showed his portrait at the end.
Most episodes feature people working hard for needed money. It's nightmarish and depressing to imagine that even in the afterlife, people will have to work for a living or starve in the forest.
Well I said it's purgatory, not heaven.
My favorite song.
That's what I thought they were going for when I first saw it
sitting beatrice looks cutest
Presumably just a random throw back to establish that they where in an afterlife of sorts. I don't think that Endicott himself holds any significance. It could have been any name.
>Le ebin misunderstanding
Weakness to air is even lamer than weakness to water. Witches these days got it rough.
It could be just to hammer home the irony. He was mistakenly thought to be a ghost in the episode, but like everyone else in the Unknown, he was a spirit all along.>>68444313 The portrait at the end is probably just a bookend to them showing the opposite in the episode itself, which focuses on Quincy and the portrait of Marguerite.
Imagine if they sprayed her with febreze or something.
I remember in High School English that in Shakespeare's time night air was considered poisonous.
Greg is my brothero
>baskets of black turtles
But what does it meaaaaaaan?
Time for the qtiest qt
why are the turtles black? Just contaminated from the adele wood oil in the stream? If so why don't they turn into beasts as well?
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I'm the highway man
Wirts gonna burgle them turts
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Why didn't Auntie Whispers think of that
shouldn't it be "be a pussy get da pussy?" Be the pussy doesn't sound right.
She doesn't want to be alone
>Demon calling With and Greg "her turtles"
The turtles are so weird. When eaten they turn dogs evil, but they're also people's souls that get eaten by demons?
what if the real demons is
I think they're just coated in oil.
>watching over the garden wall
>commercial for discover the forest comes on
i dont get why people get hyped over this scene
i think the animation looks really awkward
I always get a laugh out of that bit at the end where Auntie Whispers warns them about Adelaide, and Wirt's giving that look of "Yeah, we already went through all of that, she's dead". Like playing missions in an RPG out of sequential order and getting hints about a mission you've already completed.
They even find a frog in it. Spooky.
My mind immediately went to Spirited Away too, anon.
HERE WE ARE
THE TWO OF US
UPON A WINDING RIVER
why does half of this episode look like its being viewed through a spyglass
All the episodes have the edges of the screen blurred
Forward cherubs hear the song
A child's wishes call us on
Descend descend, 'ere he 'scapes
The dreams our wing-ed wind hath made
For only beneath the veil of sleep
can we oneiroi act on men
Half that sequence is a direct lift from Disney's silent films, the Alice Comedies.
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Because it's meant to be like a classic cartoon out of the 20s and 30s.
why did they do that in the 20s and 30s
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Because you had to stick your eyeball up to a lens to see anything.
That was before they had screens.
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it looks like bad rotoscoping masked with a fish eye lens effect
It was probably just a thing, like how everything is blue and orange now.
>>68445221>hating fish eye lens
His kicks look huge and his crew looks tough!
Egg girl is my waifu
man fish eye lens, i bet you could even make lame stuff look cool
so pre and post purgatory, this takes place current day or like late 80's early 90's?
i fucking love this cop
>eeeeyyyy happy halloween
Just kidding, Happy Halloween
I'd be more inclined to say late 70s or early 80s, honestly.
>that kid mentioning too old cat
This nigga sounded like Tom Waits when he talked
i love how they gave jason funderburger the absolute lamest voice possible to drive home the idea that wirt's idea of jason being a lady's man being completely ridiculous
How could anyone compete with Jason Funderburker?
I know right? I only caught that the second time I watched it.
Greg heard it mentioned and it stuck in his brain.
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we clarence yet?
what's funderburker supposed to be dressed as?
wirt holy shit calm down
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It has to be at least 1993.>parody names of 4 Non Blondes and Summer Mist
I can't get over this. Why?
Do you think that Beatrice's family where members of some type of weird re-population based cult or something in the waking world? Or do you think they just liked to fuck?
Saves a little money recycling assets.
theyre all linked through the calarts metaverse
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Because the Clarence guys work in the cubicle next to yours so it'd be like a funny inside joke between friends>>68445573
Backgrounds are not at all an expensive asset. Time constraints sounds like a more likely reason, but even then I doubt they didn't have time to draw ONE background.
And the Beast is a manifestation of Aku's evil essence just like the Lich, Chemical X and Double D's hat.
now youre getting it
I just assume that's the view outside CN's studio's most popular window>>68445573
it's not recycled though, it's copied. that takes longer than making up a new one.
what i find interesting is that clarence's town seems a lot more rundown and less inhabited than this busy city.. you notice in at least one spot there's a much taller building in otgw
so is sara black or indian
Shes a clown skeleton.
>AND THAT'S THE STORY AND EVERYONE IS SATISFIED WITH THE ENDING AND YET,
>OVER THE GARDEN WALL
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well damn, just finished watching the series. and I'm so fucking glad I gave it a shot. that ending man.
>That hurried wrap-up
Jesus it never gets old.
dangit, pacific time zone sucks. why cant we get both feeds for every channel?
> that ending
Makes me laugh and feel every time.
i doubt that indians are juggalos.
I think that the turtles are agents of the beast. They act as his spies and can contaminate other living things when consumed as a whole. This is why the monster that Beatrice's dog turns into shares the same color eyes as The Beast. This is also why Auntie whispers only side effect is the staining in her mouth (she sucked the turtles out of their shells). Her being a witch could also help. On top of that, whenever the boys are close to turtles, the beast is shown to be following them.
my provider has that :yyyy
Neither, it takes place today, Wirt is just the kind of guy that still believes cassette players are common place, girls love poetry mix tapes and architecture books are super interesting. It's why no one else had a cassette player but him
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plague doctor xtr !!6/fBigAuWfU
I just finished watching it with my mom while I'm cleaning up my graduation paperwork.
she loved it and thought it was adorable
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holy shit there is a negro running wild in this town! somebody call the plantation.
I never noticed Wirt's voice cracking when he said "Are you" the first time I watched this.
so they were in purgatory? when they were drowning?
It was some kind of Limbo world, yeah. By escaping the forest, they managed to wake up and live.
If they'd never left the forest, they'd have died for realsies.
Post more Sara art
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Could only find a few
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anyone have anymore wallpaper for this spectacular show?
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>you will never go on an adventure in limbo with your younger brother
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>>68446617>You'll never have a younger brother
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Recommendations for cartoons/shows/movies with a similar charm?
anyone else watching the west coast airing now?
>>68446201>Okay Wirt, this is it, this is the moment we become a hero.>Are-aughgughg>Are you?>Nailed it.
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Not a cartoon/show/movie, but the Mother series.
Also Loiselle's Peter Pan comic book series.
Peter Pan in general really. And Alice in Wonderland. And The Wizard of Oz.
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>>68446684>your younger brother never swam back up
OtGW was one of the most heartwrenching things I've ever watched because it hit so close to home, except it had a far happier outcome than I did.
I've just noticed that wert and the woods man have similar hair
I'm really sorry, anon.
you'll get to see him again one day.
My condolences man. If anything happened to my little bro I'd probably an hero on the spot.
Jim Henson's The Storyteller is a super-comfy show retelling old fairy tales.
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If someone knows of anything like this on netflix that'd be appreciated, I'm really just looking for something easy to watch tonight.
There are shadows on trees everywhere, I can see one from here.
Magic things like talking birds, evil cursed light, etc. that seems to be mostly in the Unknown.
I caught so much watching this again.
Particularly all at once like this.
Maybe I'll watch it again tomorrow, when they show it again.
YES, THAT'S RIGHT, THEY ARE SHOWING IT AGAIN SUNDAY AFTERNOON
IF YOU MISSED IT AGAIN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TOMOROW.
OVER THE GARDEN WALL,
So I can get the whole unknown pretty much being limbo thing, but how did the two end up there and how did it carry over to real life? 2deep
>>68444259>both Quincy Endicott and Maguerite Grey...after all.
Or just him.
> dad's in room
>say It's like Earthbound
>explain what Earthbound is
I need to re-watch it
>>68448151>I need to re-watch it
"You'll be joining us soon enough."-Enoch
Thanks m8, was able to watch it through my Chromecast this way
call me autistic, call me what you will
but watching something with someone in the room that's not digging it really dampens the experience for me
So is there a clear explanation of the Unknown or is it all just speculation and theories at this point?
What's worse is if they make comments every now and again
Oh no I totally get that, I just thought you meant that your dad's disapproval of the show made you want to reevaluate your opinion on it and rewatch it.
Probably didn't help that he jumped in on Molasses and Mashed Potatoes
It's unknown, if you knew what it was it wouldn't be unknown anymore. That's a rock fact!
Most popular explanation is that it's the afterlife/some kind of purgatory.
Secondary explanation is that it's a fae realm deal, a place where time isn't entirely linear, and you might cross paths with someone who comes from your far past or future.
Both have holes, and neither fully explains everything the brothers encounter.
Jason Funderburker is the most alpha dude ever!
Purely speculative, but purgatory is definitely the wrong answer.
That's the first thing everyone says a mysterious world is and is the most boring explanation of the Unknown.
I thought it was a Limbo kind of place, but that doesn't explain why it took effect on the real world.
Unless the real world is a fake too
Well, reality is an illusion, but the major problem with the purgatory theory is that you can die in the Unknown. And there are ghosts.
You also need to eat, sleep, etc.
If it was purgatory, you'd need to do none of those things, as you'd already be dead.
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Good point. Is the big twist people mention the fact that things going on weren't real? Surely that was a bit obvious?
I think people who take the Unknown as purgatory, hell, heaven, the afterlife, or anything like that are completely missing the simple truth contained in its name: It's Unknown, as in no one fucking knows. It's just elsewhere, an unnamed place. Possibly magical, possibly real, possibly in our world, possibly not. It never explains itself and it never needs to, since that's not the point. It doesn't matter where or when they are, just that they are, period.
Of course the Unknown is real. If it wasn't, then it'd be a shaggy dog story and that clearly wasn't the case as the people in the unknown continued to have lives after the boys left.
I imagine the Unknown to be a place like Wonderland or Oz, though more accessible than either of them as there has clearly been immigration from the real world.
Or maybe the Unknown is easily accessed in some other universe, but difficult from our own.
The things that went on were real, what was the obvious twist is that they were spirited there from the 80's and it wasn't a period piece.
I don't think I would have thought fae realm per say, personally, if it didn't hit so many of the themes white wolf's latest "changeling" game hits.
More even the Gaiman's Stardust.
Makes me wonder what people have been reading that current faery tale trends are so similar.
/co/ has good taste in other stuff besides /co/
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I can make some WebM's if anyone wants anything from the show though I'm not very good at them
>>68448838>Makes me wonder what people have been reading that current faery tale trends are so similar.
There's nothing recent about it. Popularity is cyclical, but faerie stories have been omnipresent for thousands of years.
There's some kernel in the story of a faerie realm that resonates with people across all kinds of cultural borders.
To be fair, the original wicked witch of the west was a papery-dry walking corpse, the idea is that the water disrupted her already tenuous structural integrity and she melted like a goddamn wet paper grocery bag full of cans when you're just trying to get inside the goddamn front door and get out of the rain and it spills everywhere and fuck the cab driver wants his money now>>68444615
they mentiioned that in the sound of music too.. they thought it was bad for your voice. I guess night air would have a lot more smoke in it from people lighting fires, right?
>>68448552>that doesn't explain why it took effect on the real world
I thought it did too...but watching again the only evidence was that Jason Funderburker's name and bellyglow.
Greg might have been about to say "...escaped from a train," you know?
But the story was much too tight to show a dream of Greg's if it all took place in Wort's head... ...assuming of course that the oneri were a dream of GREG'S...
sorry anon, my condolences.
"Prior to the late 19th century, night air was considered dangerous in most Western cultures. Based on âzymoticâ theory, people believed vapors called âmiasmaâ (plural "miasmata") rose from the soil and spread diseases. Miasmata came from rotting vegetation and foul waterâespecially in swamps and urban ghettos.
Many people, especially the weak or infirm, avoided breathing night air by going indoors and keeping windows and doors shut.
In addition to ideas associated with zymotic theory, there was also a general fear that cold or cool air spread disease.
The fear of night air gradually disappeared as understanding about disease increased as well as with improvements in home heating and ventilation.
Particularly important was the understanding that the agent spreading malaria was the mosquitoes (active at night) rather than miasmata."
>>68449083>Particularly important was the understanding that the agent spreading malaria was the mosquitoes (active at night) rather than miasmata.
Pretty wild how the act of staying indoors and shutting windows and doors actually had truth to it since it probably kept most mosquitoes out after all. This is why fairy tales have always been part of folklore across most civilizations - they are truth taken to a fantastical degree. Gossip, wife's tales, fairy tales, they all have a basis in truth pushed too far. The truth is grounding, the fantasy is compelling. That's why they resonate so intimately.
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This part? Could've probably made it bigger but bit cautious on exceeding the file size limit
No current trends in faery tales.
Not faery tales.
A liminal place in our world leading across a boarder to a meta-liminal place that touches on several other "betweens."
"You have to go out the way you came in."
What you see there depends on what was happening here.
You have to commit a sin you were explicitly warned against to be taken by the Thing-that-take-Bad-Children.
Fey can't really hurt you unless someone gives them permission, but they can trick you into hurting yourself or others.
Fey have a collection of people that they have tricked into becoming objects.
Fey need to be perceived to be real, so they will trick you into watching them (lantern).
I hadn't seen some of these and more for years, but now they are back everywhere.
OTGW had quite a few.
I am so sorry, my friend.
If you can make some of Greg in Cloudland. Like when he fights the Old North Wind in the house, that'd be great.
They are a explanation for science.
People insist on things having a REASON, but all observation actually gives us is a relationship.
Something is observed to be so...but no one cares, no one bothers to remember...because no one understands WHY.
Someone makes up a compelling reason WHY something is so, and people remember, people take heed...and the story takes on a life of it's own, maybe even eclipsing and drowning out the real reason, when it becomes known.
People call these things Truths as well.
Can we trust that it really is mosquitoes? Maybe that is just another compelling story explaining a mysterious fact...
The thing about science is that it doesn't seek proof, it seeks falsification.
There is no source for malaria other than parasites in mosquitoes, so any attempt to falsify that theory would fail.
I was asking why there were currently particular trends in faery tales.
Not why there are faery tales being told.
I get what you mean.
"Science presents falsifiable ideas and then examines existing evidence to test those ideas."
What I meant was that science presents observed relationships ("m^1 m^ 2/D"), while what people ask for is a "reason why"("because Rabbit stole the Sun").
The reason you're getting different answers than you expected is because those tropes have been present in faerie tales in some form or other for a very, very long time. The execution may have a modern twist, but the "rules" of Faerie are the same as they've ever been.
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If you want it shortened so it's just the last part, let me know
Not for the past several decades in fiction.
Show us an example of a faerie story that doesn't exhibit any of those tropes in some form.
No that's perfect, thanks.
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Im so fucking mad, I set them to record because I had shit to do, and then the piece of shit COX box just went "Fuck you, queer" and didn't record them. I haven't even see past the second episode.
If it does the same thing tomorrow, i'm going to Jihad COX headquarters.
You can find them all on somewhere like kickasstorrents.
anyone know who voiced beatrice's mom? she sounds so familiar. Like... carol burnett
>>68449574>There is no source for malaria other than parasites in mosquitoes, so any attempt to falsify that theory would fail.
but that's wrong, anon. it's only right until such time as it becomes wrong when they find something else. and then THAT will be right until they find some other something else.
in the end a theory is the same thing as a myth, something that explains something else.. a lie can explain things just as well as the truth, until you manage to poke a hole in it.
I just saw it just now for the very first time. That was really good, wow I don't think I remember seeing anything that was so rich in storytelling like OTGW did. I wish i could see it for the first time again.
>>68450631>in the end a theory is the same thing as a myth
Not a scientific theory, though. Myths aren't generally tested and tested to be true since a myth is widely someone one accepts as presented and extrapolates from there instead of trying to investigate and discover the truth behind it.
Now, if you're just talking about a plain old theory like, for example, I came up with the theory you're all the same person trying to trick me into believing I'm on a board with a multitude of people and you're really just an shady government operative trying to figure out what potentially anti-government opinions I may hold so you could make me vanish in the night, now that would be the same as a myth.
you can't test a theory, you can only test a hypothesis. a hypothesis is what, but a theory is always 'why'. an inherently imaginary concept.. there's no difference.
if you could test a theory, you would. instead you have to sit around til you find something that disproves it, because a theory is always an assertion of fact, so it's something disprovable. as is any myth.
ahhh of course. the partridge family mom. that's super appropriate. her family is all gingers, and then birds.
HD logoless streaming: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-MEVoJaPp2FcFlpenhoVFJ6cm8&usp=sharing
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>>68450951>only odd episodes
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oh nevermind I'm retarded, forgive me anon
Tangentially related question: Motorcity or Tron Uprising?
Not necessarily for Toonami, just in general.
wrong thread sry :(((((
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Amazing. Can you do the outro too?
Not to be pedantic but technically a theory is only a hypothesis supported by extensive evidence.
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It cuts out
the bluebird joke and Greg putting the stone back because of muh file size.
Didn't want to make it too small but can do to fit it all in if you want
Here's a question: Where was the woodsman's daughter during the events of the series?
Waiting for him to come home.
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Could also break it into two parts. I'm not really good with this shit
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I-I drew them.
Did they ever release any songs other than the ten they put on their YT channel before/during the show's airing? I know that they were uploading some to their Tumblr page.
but... skinny greg?
shouldn't sarah be white?
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oh my god greg you can't just ask someone why they're not white
My friends and I think that she was one of the lost souls fed into the lantern. Which means she became part of the Beast, which is why the Beast has faces all over, he's a conglomeration of all the lost souls that were turned into trees. So when the lantern was blown out and the Beast destroyed all those lost souls returned. Which makes the Woodsmen even more tragic, he could have saved his daughter at any time.
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Shitty bitrate version
I just rewatched the last episode and it appears she is of color. That makeup threw me off. My thinking was that Wirt liked Lorna because she looked like Sarah. I would of liked it better that way being like foreshadowing or something
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her hand flashes white in two separate frames
shitty korean animators
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The twist is that the frog might've just been telling you a story that may or may not have been true.
In that allegedly "empty house."
>>68450234>Show us an example of a faerie story that doesn't exhibit any of those tropes in some form.
Every appearance of Disney's version of Tinkerbell, since Peter Pan.
Fairly Odd Parents.
The film version of The Lion, The Witch and the Waredrobe (I'll grant that first is there, and that every one is in the books, especially the cronologicaly first story...but not the film).
Now if we go back to Oz, stuff like that survived from page to screen, but these days it's not even on the page...until recently.
>>68450522>the piece of shit COX box just went "Fuck you, queer">>68450564>You can find them all on somewhere like kickasstorrents
Pretty cute work
Requesting picture of the
duckman in the hospital
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yes thank you, what is the leading theory, if any on this guy?
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that just raises further questions
Jason Funderburker is just drowning in bitches, isn't he?
Holding hands with everyone.
Jason Funderburker is such a playa!
so if that entire cloud sequence was the beast could it be inferred that the duck guy is some kind of beastly man child
Everyone dreams about stuff they've seen.>>68457788
Even if it was the Beast, that dosen't mean that the imagery wasn't inspired by recent events and things he had seen.